Shacknews has got some new dirt on the ever elusive Duke Nukem: For-Never, titled Duke4 Not A 2003 Game", quoting a Take 2 conference call where the publisher mentions that there's no "possibility under the sun" that Duke Nukem Forever will be released by this year's holiday season. Also saying that since they have already accounted for the fee paid to Infogrames for the project, "right now we're just hopeful that the team in Dallas will finish it." The story also mentions their hopes of releasing Max Payne 2 in January 2004.